Fw: Marines at PTA

FYI  More on DU exchange with DOH Russ Takata.
Jim

Aloha Russ,
Mahalo again for your response.  However more questions are raised by your response.
1.  As I understand it, the only area surveyed for DU is the Davy Crockett impact area.  The overall Impact Area at PTA is 50,000 acres.  How large an area is being restricted, including the buffer zone?  Can you please send me a map of the overall PTA impact area with the restricted portion clearly marked. 
2.  When will the entire 50,000-acre PTA impact area be surveyed for DU?  Since the military for years said NO DU had been used and then they were proved wrong, it appears the burden is now on the military to act as if the entire 50,000-acres is potentially contaminated.  In my judgment that would mean a halt to all live fire until surveys and monitoring prove otherwise.  The Army says citizens health is a primary concern but their live-fire actions speak louder than their words.  Citizen health and safety is being disregarded.
3.  Since you as DOH and Col. Killian for the Army don't know if DU has been used in other areas of the PTA impact area, why risk dispersal and possibly endangering peoples health through live-fire?
4  Regarding your comments: "In response to Cory's questions, the existence of classified material is not disclosed, not even to personnel in the Army.  If you do not have a need to know as well as the security clearance for that classification, you will not get the information.  Secondly, if someone has a need to know, possesses classified information, and divulges the information, it is a violation of the security clearance.  That means you're going to be prosecuted and then go to jail."
      I say Col. Killian has a need to know if DU has been used on Hawaii ranges. You also have a need to know.  So do all of us.  If Col. Killian knows but is not disclosing that information because it is "classified"  and therefore would be a violation of his security clearance, he should seek to have it declassified and halt all live-fire now until it is declasified.  To allow live-fire to continue knowing there is DU present in my judgment is a crime against humanity and a war crime involving what the UN has said DU to be a weapon of mass destruction (WMD)  Better Col. Killian goes to jail for disclosing the truth than go to jail for hiding the truth and endangering the health and safety of Hawaii residents, visitors and troops.  Please pass this on to Col. Killian  and I ask you to encourage him to do do the right thing and disclose the truth and halt ALL live fire at PTA and other Hawaii ranges until it is proven clear of DU
 
Mahalo
Jim Albertini
Malu `Aina Center For Non-violent Education & Action
P.O. Box AB
`Ola`a (Kurtistown), Hawaii 96760
Phone 808-966-7622
email ja@interpac.net
www.malu-aina.org
PS  Russ, I will bring the microR monitor to the Hilo environmental health office for recallibration.  I would appreciate the loan of another one.
Mahalo.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: Marines at PTA

Jim,
What I told you is accurate.  The areas where the Davy Crockett spotter rounds were used and where DU was found is restricted.  The Marine Corps is not allowed to use that impact area.  When I said, "no dispersal," this is based on the latest survey that DU was only found in the Davy Crockett spotter round impact area. Further work continues at PTA to answer concerns. 
 
Regarding your pressing request that DOH and Army provide a statement that "no other DU munitions have been used," COL Killian is working with other services to address this issue.  At this point in time, COL Killian doesn't know and I don't know.  That is the reason why air monitoring and analyses are important in answering the question on the extent of DU presence.  And, this is exactly what is being worked on now. 
 
Please bring in the microR to the Environmental Health Office in Hilo since it is due for calibration. I 'll continue to loan you another one if you wish. Please let me know.
 
A continuous 24/7 monitoring will only give you radiation levels down to the micro- level.  As I told you last year, the detector should be a scintillator, not a Geiger-Mueller detector which is used in the Gamma Scout.  This was also conveyed to Dr. Pang when he met with David Allard and me in late January.  Filter collection and analyses are required for determination of radiation levels at the pico- level and the presence of DU versus natural uranium. 
 
Russ

From: Jim Albertini [mailto:ja@interpac.net]
Sent: Sat 2/23/2008 10:28 PM
To: Takata, Russell S.
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Subject: Re: Marines at PTA

Aloha Russ,
Mahalo for your prompt reply. However, your assumption --"there is no dispersal" appears to be without basis  Your assumption appears to be  based on the Davy Crocket impact area and a buffer being restricted.  What we do not have from you and the Army is statement, with supporting search data,  that NO other DU munitions have been used at PTA.  As I understand military policy, prior to 1996 DU penetrator rounds were NOT prohibited in training.  In addition there may have been other DU spotting rounds besides Davy Crockett used in training at PTA and other sites in Hawaii.  We have not seen any signed statements from various military branches about kinds of weapons used at PTA and other range areas in Hawaii.
Remember for years the Army said that NO DU was used in Hawaii.  They have been proved wrong and exposed by peace activists, not the DOH.  Please tell me the basis of your assumption that NO DU exists outside the Davy Crockett impact area.
 
I appreciate your offer of an exchange microR meter in March.  It is useful but what we really need is 360 degree continuous monitoring around PTA with a paper trail and the real time data available to residents from home computers.  Of particular concern are the spikes that may appear from such monitoring.  The cost of such a system is minor compared to recent crash of the $1.2billion B-2 bomber in Guam and the $150,000 in fuel it cost each time for a bombing run from Guam to Hawaii.  Ask the "King of Pork" Char Sui man himself, Dan Inouye, to provide the cash for the monitoring.
 
Mahalo.
.
Jim Albertini
Malu `Aina Center For Non-violent Education & Action
P.O. Box AB
`Ola`a (Kurtistown), Hawaii 96760
Phone 808-966-7622
email ja@interpac.net
www.malu-aina.org
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: Marines at PTA

Jim,
Surveys subsequent to the initial scoping survey have verified DU in the expected Davy Crockett impact areas. These impact areas, including buffer zone, have been restricted for use. This includes the Marines.  Therefore, there is no dispersal.    
Development of air monitoring project continues.
By the way, the microR meter I loaned to you is due for calibration in March.  I will provide an exchange for you next month.
Russ   
    


From: Jim Albertini [mailto:ja@interpac.net]
Sent: Fri 2/22/2008 10:00 PM
To: Takata, Russell S.
Cc: j Yoshimoto; Brenda Ford; Emily Naeole; Dominic Yagong; Harry Kim; Bob Jacobson; Angel Pilago; Donald Ikeda; Pete Hoffmann; Stacy K. Higa; Andy Levin; Janet Snyder; Barbara Bell; Nelson Ho; Chris Yuen; Charmaine Shigemura; Faye Hanohano; Dwight Takamine; Cindy Evans; Robert N. Herkes; Jerry L. Chang; Russell S. Kokubun; Lorrainne R. Inouye
Subject: Marines at PTA

Aloha Russ,
2000 Marines from Kaneohe and Okinawa are up at PTA with their big guns.  Who is monitoring for dispersal of DU if anybody?
Jim Albertini
Malu `Aina Center For Non-violent Education & Action
P.O. Box AB
`Ola`a (Kurtistown), Hawaii 96760
Phone 808-966-7622
email ja@interpac.net
www.malu-aina.org

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